IP over momentium powered devices

The following was a reasonably long thread on Scary Devil Monastery and some of the threading has been maintained.

 Christian Wagner wrote:
>Perhaps the spec [IP Over Frisbee] could be loosened up to allow for similar technologies,

Simes wrote:

"IP over momentium powered devices", or "IP over MPD" perhaps ? IMHO the spec should be open enough that you can engrave the contents of the packet onto a dead machine (or rock) which is then sent to its destination via a launch system of some sort - say a trebuchet for a LAN or an ICBM for WAN links.

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The Scarlet Manuka wrote:

For a really effective denial of service attack, leave the warhead on the ICBM intact and armed...

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Mike Andrews wrote:

That's not a DoS attack. It's just making sure that the receiver Gets The Message.

Think of it as <clickety-click> on an industrial scale.

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Paul Martin wrote:

Rocks with messages? Propelled through windows? Makes a whole new meaning to TCP wrappers...

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Simes wrote:

Indeed - You could have large bits of rubber webbing which would fling rocks back selectively...

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"Ooooh look, its an rcpbind probe - let's send that one back"

TWOINNNNNG!

wwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeCRASH!

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Would make a long lasting denial of service - engrave a suitable DoS packet onto the missile which can be entered into the destination machine if it is still in one piece.

There is also the potential for firing waterbuffalo (perhaps putting the packet contents on via branding) or custard pies (packet contents writing in cream on top - potential for packet errors due to airflow removing some/all of the said cream however) for added effect. Adds new meaning to "dropped packets" as well....

This could also be linked in with RFC 1149 to enable larger sizes of avian carrier networks.

I now have this image in my head of a custard/waterbuffalo/bird splatted building in London which houses the LINX^[1], with the occasional suit in Docklands getting hit by dropped packets.

Perhaps I need more sleep.

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Malcolm Ray wrote:

I have an image of waterbuffalo getting lost on the Docklands Light Railway, and mooing for directions.

How about encoding datagrams by shaving them onto coconuts? This would increase the throughput of avian carrier networks.

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Simes wrote:

But would it ? After all you'd probably have to have two avian carriers with a sling between them to carry a coconut. That said, a dropped packet would do more damage than just a dropped avian carrier.

The size of the avian carrier would also make a difference - would you use albertroses (sp) for long distance (ie transaltantic) carrying large loads and robins (carrying smaller loads) for LANs ? Perhaps migratory avian carriers could be used for small packet sizes as well - a little bit like ATM really :)

I've now got the vision of WorldCon employees feverishly attempting to clone Pteraodons with someone in the corner wishfully reading about Rocs in a D&D book to try an satisfy UUNET's bandwidth requirements.....

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Mike Andrews wrote:

and Velociraptors with knapsacks for those high-reliability apps where the packets Just Have To Get There, and speed is a secondary interest.

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Lionel Lauer wrote:

Hm, vicious TCP/IP carriers eh? - Just the thing for replying to spammers...

Joe Zeff wrote:

For smaller packets, use Road Runners. You know, like in Acme Express^[2], for packages when it absolutely, positively has to get there Right Now.

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Paul Tomblin wrote:

There already is an RFC^[3] for IP using M1A1 tanks with 1s and 0s painted on the top.

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[1]	LINX - London INternet eXchange
[2]	Tiny Toons Adventures
[3]	RFC 1217 - Memo from the Consortium for Slow Commotion Research (CSCR)

Date posted: 13th March 2000